C C C C   N E W S L E T T E R

                   CENTRAL COAST COMPUTER CLUB
                     Santa Maria, California

             VOLUME XV:   NUMBER 11          NOVEMBER, 2000

NEXT MEETING: NOVEMBER 21, 2000 7:00PM  KNOLLWOOD VILLAGE  4012 S. BRADLEY

PRESENTATION: Alan Raul on the LINUX Operating System                         

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(1) Officers, Helplines, S.I.G.s                  
(2) President's Corner/ By-Laws     Charles Barney
(3) Web Wanderings / Misc.          Gil Smith     
(4) Editor's Comments / Labels      Dick Trissel  
(5) Review: Drive Image 4.0         Ray Isenson   
(6) October Internet S.I.G.         Dick Trissel  
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Officers                      Helplines

President                     Juno
Charles Barney  937-1240      Gilbert Smith       925-3743
cbarney@lightspeed.net        colgil1@juno.com

Vice President                Windows 95
Frank Maciel    922-2318      Amy Malicki         925-5780
frm8198@juno.com              amymal@juno.com

Secretary                     Hardware & DOS
Barbara Godwin  934-9885      Ray Isenson         937-6938
yungbag@best1.net             risenson@juno.com

Treasurer                     Voice control & Input/Output
Gerald Miller   934-1396      Amy Malicki         925-5780
2741 Banyan Way               amymal@juno.com
Santa Maria CA 93455
gmiller33@excite.com

Librarian                     Desktop Publishing & scanners
Sharon Allen    928-2209      Don Harelson        934-3926
sallen4060@aol.com            qef1@juno.com

Publicity                     Software User Identification
Bill Corning    934-0775      Fred Adams          934-1128
foster95@juno.com             fred421@juno.com

Newsletter Editor             Visual Basic
Dick Trissel    937-7572      Gerald Miller
rtrissel@juno.com             Gmiller33@excite.com

Program Chairman              AOL
Ray Isenson     937-6938      Frank Maciel        922-2318
risenson@juno.com             frm8198@aol.com

Special Interest Groups (SIGs)

Windows 95/98                 Internet
Amy Malicki                   Dick Trissel
amymal@juno.com               rtrissel@juno.com  

CCCC Membership is $15 for twelve months.  For this you receive:
	Monthly newsletter
	Access to the clubs software library
	Disk of the month (usually for $1)
	Helpline support
	Monthly presentation
	Valuable door prizes
	Question and answer sessions

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 CCCC                         Page 2                      November 2000

President's Corner
by Charles Barney

There were about 60 persons who turned out for the October 17th meeting; a 
relatively light attendance compared to recent months. Perhaps it was the 
final presidential debate or the baseball playoffs on television, or maybe 
just the shorter days and cooler nights that kept people home. But what we 
lacked in numbers, we made up for in enthusiasm!

The proposed amendment to the club's by-laws pertaining to dues payments 
was passed unanimously by the members present. Please read Dick's notice on 
this elsewhere in this newsletter for information on what the change means 
to you. We are trying to make it as easy as possible for everyone.

I would like to extend a hearty 4C's welcome to new members Richard and 
Cheri Holmes. We are very pleased to have you join our group and trust that 
your time with us will be a long and rewarding one. We hope that you grow 
to feel comfortable with active participation at the meetings, benefiting 
from our pool of knowledge and contributing your own ideas as well.

During our main program for the evening, Matt McCann from Intuit gave us a 
delightful presentation on Quicken 2001 Deluxe. This being the latest 
version of the venerable "Swiss Army Knife" of financial management 
software that has been around for 17 years. When asked, probably about one-
third of the members raised their hands to indicate that they were using 
some version of Quicken. Matt briefly covered installation of the program 
and setup of personal accounts before showing us some of the multitude of 
features, blending all of this in with amusing anecdotes about his family.

In addition to the familiar check register, reports and graphs, a number of 
exciting new things have been added. The program's extended features are 
tightly integrated with the internet. Investors can not only get current 
stock prices and instant portfolio updates online, but can now download 
news wire stories to research specific companies. Visits to the bank may 
become obsolete one day. 

With Quicken you can access your bank, credit and brokerage account 
records, make transfers and pay bills with just a few mouse clicks. Using 
the new Quicken, you can download the current values of your home and car 
and even find out how much your neighbor paid for his house! Don't like to 
buy stamps? Then buy postage online and print it from within Quicken.

Are you, like a lot of folks, negligent about backing up important files on 
your computer? Then take advantage of Quicken's Online Backup. They will 
back them up for you, saving them on the Internet for retrieval from 
anywhere! A comprehensive listing of all the available features is beyond 
the scope of this column, but this much is clear: Quicken 2001 is an 
improvement on an already great program that goes a long way toward helping 
us manage the financial chaos in our lives.
 
Matt was generous enough to provide us with three of his products to give 
away as door prizes. The club computer called absentees Don Harrelson and 
Ira Irwin before choosing Phil Grycel as the proud owner of the Quicken 
2001 Suite. New member Cheri Holmes was named a winner, picking up Quicken 
2001 Deluxe as was Bill Rust, who got a copy of the Quicken 2001 Home and 
Business edition.

In other prizes, George Spingler took home ClickBook 2000 and Robert 
Hileman missed his chance, letting Barbara Lohman win a copy of Power 
Quest's Data Keeper. The last prize, Partition Magic, was the most 
difficult to give away. Called and not present were Diane Hughes, Paul 
Highfill, Thomas Phillips, Joseph Knight, Glen Wood and Bob Gallagher. Both 
Fred Adams and myself passed. Finally, Charles High took it home!

By the time you read this, I'll have already returned, but I have accepted 
an invitation to attend the Fall conference of the Association of Personal 
Computer User Groups (APCUG) on behalf of our club in Las Vegas, Nevada 
November 11th and 12th.

This annual event is a chance for user group officers from all over to get 
together, share their experiences and to have some fun. A number of major 
vendors are expected to give presentations and actively seek opportunities 
for speaking engagements. I'm hoping to persuade some of them to come out 
to the 4C's next year. More on this later!

Mark you calendars now for the club Christmas party on December 19th. It 
will be a potluck again, so start thinking about what kind of "finger food" 
dish you might want to bring.

Please don't miss the November 21st meeting if at all possible. We will be 
voting to elect our club officers for the year 2001 and Alan Raul from 
neighboring San Luis Obispo user's group, the SloBytes, will be down to 
give us a much anticipated talk on the Linux operation system. I'll see you 
at the clubhouse. - Charles

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Web Wanderings
by Gil Smith

FUNOLOGY - Fun for the Kids --- This is a great place on the net for kids 
to have more fun --- whether sitting at the computer, alone or with 
friends, parents, grandparents, pets, etc.  The boredom busters are awesome 
--- from making Coffee Filter Butterflies to Tissue Paper Flowers.  Send to 
the kids or grandkids and you just might not hear, "I'm bored!" until 
school starts again.
 http:///www.funology.com/

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USING CHARTS IN MONEY MANAGEMENT  Virtually any finance site can draw you a 
chart, but the best ones let you customize the graphic with technical 
indicators such as moving averages and trading volumes, compare stocks with 
one another or with indexes, and manipulate a wide range of data. MSN 
MoneyCentral trumps the field in this category too.  It also provides a lot 
of information which is very useful in managing your portfolio.
 http://www.moneycentral.com 

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INTERNET ATOM COLLIDER  Just about all of us have encountered a random 
generator on the Web at one point or another, but this site takes that 
theory to new levels.  Claiming that elementary particles of information 
are accelerated to nearly the speed of light on the Internet, traveling in 
opposite directions around a giant fiber ring, they eventually meet a 
collision chamber that the wits at Harvard University who created this site 
may or may not have designed.  The resulting collisions release small but 
massive information particles, scattered in all directions, which are 
collected by the information detector and stored for later viewing.
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/
collider.html

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A HISTORY LESSON  Convinced that history is best learned by understanding 
timelines rather than memorizing dates and events, the author of this 
chart, Ancreas Nothiger, has made it available for use online as an 
educational tool.  Using this unique timeline, you can check out what was 
happening around the world in 1865 while America was in the midst of a 
Civil War - the first Trans-Atlantic cable was laid and the Boer War was 
raging in Africa.  An overall History category shows you a master timeline 
which is color-coded to help you keep track of the region you're viewing.  
You can also view timelines that show the lifespans of famous figures or 
timelines that life  spans in more detail.
 http://www.hyperhistory.com

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WATCH FREE MOVIES  Want to catch a quick flix without going to the theater 
or movie rental store?  You can choose from over 1,200 titles to be viewed 
straight from your computer.
 http://www.movieflix.com

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TRUTH OR FICTION  Where do rumors, hoaxes, and urban legends come from, who 
starts them and why, and what can we learn from them?  Find a particular 
rumor quickly and easily.  This site helps spread truth particularly in the 
Internet.  Example: The cab driver and the terminally ill passenger - 
Unproven.  The symbolism on the One Dollar Bill - Truth. Since each rumor, 
hoax, or urban legend is unique and sometimes we don't know for sure 
without doing some research what to believe, there are some signs to look 
for.  Use this site to validate what may appear to be a true story, before 
sending it to all of your e-mail friends as the truth.
 http://www.truthorfiction.com

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 CCCC                         Page 4                       November 2000

Editor's Comments
by Dick Trissel

        N O T I C E  #1

Check your mailing label on this newsletter.  In the upper right corner 
there will be an arrow pointing to a number (--> #.##).  That is the amount 
in dollars and cents that you will owe by January's business meeting for 
your membership to continue through the year 2001.  Only those due in 2000 
will still show an expiration date on the label.

There are three categories of members; those that have dues payable this 
year (Oct., Nov., Dec.), those that have dues payable in 2001, and those 
that have already paid through 2001.

The first category will pay when due this year for the rest of this year 
and all of next year.  The second category will pay in January for the 
remainder of 2001.  The third category owes $0.00.

It would help a lot if you paid by check and on time.  It's going to be a 
little hectic.  And paying by check, a receipt will not be necessary.

        N O T I C E  #2

The first inside sheet of the newsletter is a pull-out ballot.  Use it to 
vote for the CCCC officers for the year 2001.  Bring the filled in ballot 
to the 21 November general meeting.  If you can't attend the meeting, 
follow the instructions on the back of the ballot and mail it to:

Kenneth Stiffler
5321 Redwillow Dr.
Santa Maria  CA  93455

This fancy ballot compliments of Ray Isenson.

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 CCCC                         Page 5                       November 2000

Review: Drive Image 4.0
by Ray Isenson

An upgrade to the very powerful PowerQuest utility described in the 
February 2000 issue of the 4C'er, version 4.0 of Drive Image expands its 
span of coverage to include the new Microsoft O/S, ME.  For the typical 
home computer user, Drive Image makes sense of the humongous hard drives 
currently being sold.  It does this by simplifying the making of partial or 
total back up copies of important files or, at the user's option, all of 
the files in a partition or on the drive.

Similarly, it makes practical the use of a second installed hard drive or 
an external hard drive, a Jaz or ZIP drive or an MO (Magneto-Optical) drive 
for that same purpose.  It is not designed to save to magnetic tape.

Drive Image is a very flexible, very elegant utility for backing up 
(imaging) part or all of a hard drive.  Selectively, it can be used to 
create an image copy of an operating system or a partition  Thus, in the 
event of a catastrophic accident, the damaged partition can easily be 
restored rather than requiring a complete new installation.  Or, depending 
upon the size of the hard drive and number of programs and amount of stored 
data, a data partition or even the entire utilized portion of the drive can 
be backed up in another area of that drive or to one of the other above 
listed devices.  If needed, then, the entire hard drive can be restored 
with the punch of a button or, with equal ease, one or more files from that 
sector can selectively be restored.  The main thing is that recourse to 
Drive Image will mean, as in a song of years ago, "Never having to say 
you're sorry!"

As with older versions, Drive Image 4.0 also can be used to handle the file 
transfers  and system installation to upgrade drives.

A significant advantage of Drive Image over competitive utilities is its 
flexibility and ease of operation.  It can be loaded on to the hard drive 
and run from the "Start>Program" menu or it can be run from floppy.  In the 
latter case recourse is made to a Caldera DOS (as opposed to MSDOS).  The 
computer is booted to the A: drive in the DOS mode.  The floppy is replaced 
with one containing Drive Image and the program is run from there.

Although it can be used on a 386SX driven computer, a 486 or later is more 
appropriate.  A minimum 16 Mbytes of RAM is required, although 32 Mbytes is 
preferred in any case and required for FAT32 or NTFS configured drives.  
Eight Mbytes of hard drive space is required.  Any speed CD-ROM drive is 
needed for software installation.

A well written, six page pamphlet delivered with the program's CD-ROM disk 
provides all of the instructions in a step by step fashion, requisite to 
setting up and running Drive Image.  The 120 plus page accompanying manual 
adds detail to the instruction in the pamphlet as well as providing 
information and guidance for handling unusual hardware configurations.

Smart Sector Technology, a PowerQuest feature, results in imaging of data 
containing sectors only, bypassing those that contain no data or, 
obviously, empty sectors.

User group members may purchase Drive Image v4 at a special UG price of $30 
by ordering from the secure web site at
www.ugr .com/order/.  You must indicate the special price code of UGEVAL00 
with your order.

Drive Image 4.0, PowerQuest Corporation; P.O. Box 1911 Orem, UT 84059-1911, 
Phone (801) 437-8900.
List price,: $69.95.  Special UG price $30 (see above)

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 CCCC                         Page 6                       November 2000

October Internet S.I.G
by Dick Trissel

We had 25 attendees--not bad considering we were competing with the third 
presidential debate, baseball playoffs, and Dark Angel.

The discussions centered around cookies, and, of course, that led to 
Temporary Internet Files(TIFs).

I discussed an article from the November PC World magazine on Web privacy.  
It was about the "benevolent" and "malevolent" types of cookies.  The 
benefits of cookies is to allow Web sites to track your preferences and 
concentrate their presentations around these interests.  Some people like 
this feature.  Also, it appears some ISPs (such as JUNO) put your ID and 
password in a cookie so you don't have to enter them each time you logon.

One adverse aspect of cookies is that there are third party "providers" 
that can take the information from your various cookies and distribute that 
information to subscribing Web sites.  Two of these third party cookies are 
recognizable with the names Doubleclick and Avenuea.

Some cookies have expiration dates, whatever that means.  My experience is 
that if the cookies folder content is not managed, it gets quite large.  A 
comment was made that the index.dat file cannot be deleted from within 
Windows--correct.  It can be deleted from true DOS.  However, it is usually 
only around 32Kb.

Another comment was that the JUNO ID and password were in the index.dat 
file because if deleted, JUNO asks for them the next time up.  I think what 
is happening is that with the index.dat file removed, none of the cookies 
can be accessed and this is functionally equivalent to removing the 
cookies.  If you look at the index.dat file with the DOS "type" command, 
you see the index of all the cookies files.

The cookies list is viewable in both the C:\Windows\Cookies
folder and the
C:\Windows\Temporary Internet
Files folder.  Does that mean the deleting process can be done from either?  
My experience is that deleting from the TIF folder removes them from the 
Cookies folder, BUT, deleting from the Cookies folder does NOT remove them 
from the TIF folder.  What is your experience?

The PC World article also mentioned three free programs for blocking 
cookies, all at http://www.pcworld.com/downloadsThey are IDcide, 
AdSubtract, and Naviscope.  Enough about cookies.

Some of the operations with Internet Explorer were discussed--particularly 
the options in the Tools menu (View in IE4) at Internet Options, the 
General tab (delete TIFs) and the Advanced tab (selections of IE 
operational options).

The IE History, Favorites, Channels and Address list are stored references 
to your past activity using IE.  These all can be managed.  The advice 
given by Chuck Saylor was "Use the mouse right-click button"--good advice.  
The Advance tab options mentioned above are useful, also.  Just don't 
forget to press the Apply button after you've made a change.  For an 
explanation of an option listed, either right-click it, or drag the [?] to 
the option.

A suggestion for an interesting Web site was
http://www.globexplorer.com.  It gives a satellite view of the earth with 
zoom capability--fascinating!

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