C C C C   N E W S L E T T E R

                   CENTRAL COAST COMPUTER CLUB
                     Santa Maria, California

             VOLUME XV:   NUMBER 8        AUGUST, 2000

 NEXT MEETING: AUGUST 15, 2000 7:00PM  KNOLLWOOD VILLAGE  4012 S. BRADLEY

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(1) Officers, Helplines, S.I.G.s                  
(2) President's Corner              Charles Barney
(3) July Internet SIG/Windows Key   Dick Trissel  
(5) Editor's Comments/T.I.F. Index  Dick Trissel  
(6) Review: DriveImage Program      Ray Isenson   
(7) Saving Web Pages                Dick Trissel  
(8) Web Wanderings                  Gil Smith     
(9) Exploring Windows Explorer PT3  Dick Trissel  
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Officers                      Helplines

President                     Juno
Charles Barney  937-1240      Gilbert Smith       925-3743
cbarney@lightspeed.net        colgil1@juno.com

Vice President                Windows 95
Frank Maciel    922-2318      Amy Malicki         925-5780
frm8198@juno.com              amymal@juno.com

Secretary                     Hardware & DOS
Barbara Godwin  934-9885      Ray Isenson         937-6938
yungbag@best1.net             risenson@juno.com

Treasurer                     Voice control & Input/Output
Gerald Miller   934-1396      Amy Malicki         925-5780
gmiller33@excite.com          amymal@juno.com

Librarian                     Desktop Publishing & scanners
Sharon Allen    928-2209      Don Harelson        934-3926
sallen4060@aol.com            qef1@juno.com

Publicity                     Software User Identification
Bill Corning    934-0775      Fred Adams          934-1128
foster95@juno.com             fred421@juno.com

Newsletter Editor             Visual Basic
Dick Trissel    937-7572      Gerald Miller
rtrissel@slonet.org           Gmiller33@excite.com

Program Chairman        
Ray Isenson     937-6938
risenson@juno.com

Special Interest Groups (SIGs)

Windows 95/98                 Internet
Amy Malicki                   Dick Trissel
amymal@juno.com               rtrissel@slonet.org

CCCC Membership is $15 for twelve months.  For this you receive:
	Monthly newsletter
	Access to the clubs software library
	Disk of the month (usually for $1)
	Helpline support
	Monthly presentation
	Valuable door prizes
	Question and answer sessions

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President's Corner
by Charles Barney

As many of you know, I was away on vacation during the July 18th meeting 
and, thanks to Vice President Frank Maciel filling-in, things continued to 
function smoothly. A scout informed me that it was a good meeting with 
about 80 persons in attendance. 

Our own Ray Isenson, after scrambling to overcome some unforeseen technical 
difficulties, gave the assembly a chilling demonstration of the 
vulnerabilities to cyber attacks we face going online and some measures to 
defend ourselves from unwanted intrusions. 

Faithful club secretary Barbara Godwin provided me with a list of 
winners/losers in the evening's door prize drawing as follows: 1) Al 
Paquette, Winner - Ream of Paper. 2) Allen Alderson - Absent, Carol 
Chambard, Winner - Easy Roller Trackball. 3) Win Campbell, Winner - Test 
Drive Off Road 2. 4) Ray Shafer, Winner - Printmaster Classic 7.0. 5) Bill 
Rust, Winner - Easy FamilyTree. 6) George Spingler, Winner - America's 
Toughest 18 Holes. 7) Charles High, Winner - Bugs &  Butterflies Animated 
Screensaver. Wow, that's only one person who's name was called and not 
present - that's pretty darn good!

Don't forget the August meeting slips in early on the 15th  this time, so 
mark your calendars. I look forward to seeing you all at the clubhouse.  - 
Charles 
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How to set the default ISP for the DUN connections.

1. Go to Control Panel/Internet/Connection
2. In the Connection Section, choose Settings
3. Choose the DialUp Network connection you want (scroll for the
   choices)
4. Adjust the logon info, etc.
5. OK your way back out.
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** WANTED: IDE 2X CD-ROM DRIVE. Call Ray Isenson 937-6938 **

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July Internet S.I.G.
by Dick Trissel 

We started the July Internet S.I.G. even earlier than the announced 5:45pm 
as there were already attendees with questions.  Ultimately, we had 31 
attendees in a room with 20 chairs.  At least, no one has a problem hearing 
what's going on.

The first problem involved an AOL user doing file downloads.  After the 
download is selected, Internet Explorer is invoked and the download is 
interrupted.  No solution was presented.

Several of us commented on our satisfaction with the free JUNO e-mail/Web 
service.  However, one criticism was the lack of a news server on JUNO to 
access USENET.  Some users say they lose the connection to JUNO  
occasionally.  Then, during the presentation later by Ray Isenson, we 
weren't able to login to JUNO on the first attempt.

There was a short discussion about Internet cookies.  I recommended users 
look at the actual content of some of the cookies in the Windows\Cookies 
folder.  Although most of the content is unintelligible, some is 
enlightening.  As far as the recommendation as to whether to delete 
cookies, it all depends.  Some cookies are needed for user identification, 
but most are for the Web site's use and can be deleted.  The way to tell 
what is needed is to delete all cookies, go to the Web site in question, 
then immediately logoff and look at what cookies got written.

Control of whether cookies are accepted (allowed to be written into the 
cookie folder), not accepted, or user queried, can be controlled in the Web 
browser options.  In Internet Explorer, go to Tools (or View)/Internet 
Options/Advanced and scroll to Cookies.

Because the regular presentation was to be on computer security, I 
recommended the best security for private documents is to archive them onto 
mass media storage--floppies, Zip, CD, or another hard drive (or use a 
separate non-online computer).  If the files aren't on your computer while 
it is online, they are safe--as the new generation would say--DUH!

There was a brief discussion of the free voice mail service called e-voice.  
I have had excellent service and recommend it.  It is available at:
http://www.evoice.com
Phone calls that come while your phone line is busy (or if allowed to ring 
a certain number of times) will be intercepted with a personal message to 
the caller and the caller can leave a message.  You are then notified (if 
you choose) by e-mail, or by calling e-voice by phone, or by going to their 
Web site.  In all instances, the audio message is available, either on your 
phone or on your computer.

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July Internet S.I.G.

(continued) 

Because of the member e-mail list signup sheet available again this month, 
I explained that it will be used if we need to send a mid-month 
announcement.  Any message sent will NOT contain the list of recipients.  
This is because BCC (Blind Courtesy Copy) will be used--only your address 
will be in the message header.
 
Some problems and answers that were presented:

RealPlayer 7 for streaming audio not working.  Another user uses it with no 
problem--no solution.

Find list of file extensions on the Web--
http://www.cknow.com/ckinfo/acronyms/fileaextensions.htm
http://whatis.com/ff.htm#a

Change file associations (what application runs for a particular file 
type)--
To get the application option, right-click on the file, select Open With, 
choose the appropriate application from the menu.  Be sure to uncheck the 
option to use that application for that file type, unless you want that.

How often should you defrag?--Kim Komando says, once a week.  I suggest you 
turn off the screen saver, virtual memory, and any running programs before 
starting a defrag.

Where can one get a hexadecimal display file editor?--One Web site for 
Hexedit is:
http://www.chez.com/prigaux/hexedit.html
Hexedit is a DOS based hexadecimal/text display file editor.

A comment was made that chain e-mail letters should not be forwarded-AMEN



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Windows Keys

Ever wonder what good those "Windows Keys" are (the two on the bottom row 
with the windows flag on them?  Well now you will know.

Use your Windows key to open a variety of commands quickly.
The Windows key will access the Start menu when it's pressed.
You can also depress the Windows key and press the letter E to
   launch Windows Explorer.
The Windows-F combination will launch the File Finder.
To minimize all windows, press the letter M while holding down the
   Windows key.
Conversely, you can maximize all windows by depressing the Windows
   key and pressing Shift-M.
To access the Start menu's Run command, simply hold down the Windows
   key and press the letter R on your keyboard.

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Editor's Comments
by Dick Trissel

It's time for another reminder of the presence of the CCCC Web site at:
http://member.apcug.org/fourseas

You may not be aware that along with several other useful links, there is a 
link to a section that has verbatim copies of the clubs newsletters since 
February 2000.  So, if there's an article that you want to read again, it's 
there.

Also, there is a link to a table of contents for all the newsletters since 
January 1998.

In this month's newsletter there's an article on how to save information 
from Web sites using your browser.  This way you can put a copy of the 
newsletter in a file and print it out.

I want to take this opportunity to thank all the members that have 
contributed to the CCCC newsletter since I've taken the "temporary" job as 
editor.  As you probably have noticed, there's not much "white" space as a 
consequence of lack of material.  This doesn't mean I don't still want any 
and all articles you care to submit.  I'll use most anything (preferrably, 
computer or club related).

And I also want suggestions as to what you want to see in "your" 
newsletter.  Do you want, computer-world news articles, program reviews, 
technical stuff (in the computer world, "stuff" is a technical term), 
puzzles (word and math), local gossip (Bruce took Maggie home after last 
month's meeting), or what?  This is your newsletter-you're paying for it.
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T.I.F. Index.dat Delete
by Dick Trissel

OK, you've finally decided to delete all the Temporary Internet Files 
(T.I.F.) to get back those umpsteen megabytes of disk space.  But, when you 
check the T.I.F. properties, you still have several hundred kilobytes being 
used.  Where are they?  AHA!  They are in a special file that's not 
listable called index.dat in the T.I.F. folder (there's one in the Cookies 
folder, also).  And, like all the other T.I.F. folders and files, it can be 
removed without hurting anything.  It will be recreated by the system, but 
only about 32Kb in size.

The trick is how to delete the index.dat file if you can't see it.  Since 
it is a system file, you have to do the job in DOS--real DOS, not Windows 
DOS.  So, go to Start/Shut Down/Restart in MS-DOS.  This will put you into 
DOS at the C:\Windows> prompt.  Type:
cd tempor~1 and press Enter.
Now you are at the 
C:\Windows\tempor~1> directory.  Type:
dir and press Enter.
You should see the index.dat file listed.  Type:
del index.dat and press Enter.
Type dir and Enter again and it should be gone.

To get back to Windows, just type:
exit and press Enter for a restart.

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Review: DRIVE IMAGE v3.0
by  Ray Isenson

Considerably more versatile than the similarly named PowerQuest program, 
Drive Copy, reviewed last month, Drive Image 3.0 provides a fast, easily 
used means for managing the information stored on your hard drive.  Drive 
Image support isn't limited to operating systems in the Microsoft Windows 
family although installation and implementation is somewhat easier for 
them.  It will handle almost any personal computer operating system in use 
today; including OS/2, DOS 5.0 or later and Linux ext2.  (It does not 
support Windows NT Server or Windows 2000 Sever.)

Like Drive Copy, it can be used to upgrade from an existing hard drive to a 
new one.  Clear instructions for so doing are included in the 100 plus page 
printed manual.  If this is the user's sole objective, Drive Copy is easier 
to employ.  However, Drive Image is so versatile, so powerful, that it is a 
must for any serious personal computer user.

For the typical home computer user, Drive Image makes sense of the 
humongous hard drives currently being sold.  Similarly, it makes practical 
the use of a second installed hard drive or an external hard drive or a ZIP 
drive.  It is a very flexible, very elegant utility for backing up 
(imaging) part or all of a hard drive.  Selectively, it can be used to 
create an image copy of an operating system partition.  Thus, in the event 
of a catastrophic accident, the damaged partition can easily be restored 
rather than requiring a complete new installation.  Or, depending upon the 
size of the hard drive and number of programs and amount of stored data, a 
data partition or even the entire utilized portion of the drive can be 
backed up in another area of that drive or to one of the other above listed 
devices.  If needed, then, the entire hard drive can be restored with the 
punch of a button.

The image copy is a compressed version of the original.  However, included 
in Drive Image is a special file editor that can be used under Windows 95, 
98 or NT.  With it the user can get into the compressed image and 
selectively call out, copy or remove any part or parts of interest.  As one 
further bonus, Drive Image 3.0 provides many of the features of another 
PowerQuest program, Partition Magic.  With it one can create, remove or 
resize partitions on the drive;  all while following simple, explicit 
functions that are presented on the computer monitor.  A final bonus is a 
free copy of another PowerQuest file management program, DataKeeper 3.0.  
Data keeper is a program that creates backup data files on a continuous 
basis with little or no intervention on the user's part.

The free copy is downloadable from PowerQuest's WEB site when Drive Image 
3.0 is registered.

The best part, user group members may purchase Drive Image 3.0 at a special 
$30 price by ordering from the secure web site at:  www.ugr.com/order/
Indicate the special price code of UGEVAL00 with your order.

Drive Image, PowerQuest Corp. P.O. Box 1911
Orem, UT 84059
tel 801-437-8900
Special UG price, $30

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Saving Web Pages
by Dick Trissel 

In Internet Explorer there are five ways to save a Web page you are viewing 
online so that you can use the text or graphics offline.  I will explain 
each method for I.E.  Netscape users have the same capability and will have 
to find the equivalent commands.

There are five ways to save Web pages in Internet Explorer.
A Web page display may be made up of text, frames, tables, graphics or 
combinations thereof.  My use of the term Web page includes everything you 
see by scrolling up, down or sideways; not just the one screen display.  
Let's deal with the overall page content first.

Save As

While viewing the Web page of interest, click on the File option in the 
toolbar and choose Save As.  Choose the folder, file name, and file type.  
If you choose HTML as the file type, you'll get a full copy of the Web 
page-not just the single screen display.  If you choose TXT as the file 
type, you'll get just the words in the Web page with blank areas where the 
.graphics were.  Make a note as to where you put the file.

Selected Text

Let's say you only want all the words from the Web page.  Click on the Edit 
option and choose Select All.  Then click on Edit and choose Copy.  This 
puts all the text (no graphics) into your clipboard.  Remember, you have to 
save from the clipboard into another application before putting anything 
else in the clipboard or you'll lose the first copy.  Another way to do a 
Select all is to put the mouse pointer on a region of text (not a graphic) 
and do a right click.  Then choose Select All.

If you just want certain words from the text, use the mouse left button to 
select and then Edit/Copy.

Graphics and Frames

Now let's say you want to save that neat graphic from the Web page.  Put 
the mouse pointer on the graphic, press the right button, and choose Save 
Picture As.  Choose the folder, file name and file type.

Or you can choose to save the graphic as a background.  Use the Save As 
Wallpaper option.

Print Screen

If you want a graphical image of the entire screen display (including 
scroll bars, etc.), press the Print Scrn button on your keyboard (upper 
right area).  This puts a graphic in the clipboard.

Temporary Internet Files

Now it gets tricky.  While you are online, the Web page body, the graphics, 
the sounds, etc. are all put into the Temporary Internet Files folder.  
This means you can go offline and then re-display all the pages, graphics, 
etc. over again.  And, from them, extract the same stuff I described above 
using the same techniques.

Using Windows Explorer, go to Windows\Temporary Internet Files folder.  
Double click the appropriate file, and choose to stay offline.  You may 
have to say OK to a warning message.

Or, go offline with Internet Explorer, choose File/Open/Browse.
Choose Windows\Temporary Internet Files.  Choose File-Type/ All.  Scroll 
through the files and double click the file of interest.

Summary

The two main operations to capturing information from a Web page is the use 
of the Save to a file, and the use of the clipboard.  And remembering where 
you put the darned files.

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Web Wanderings
by Gil Smith

Here are some web sites which you may find interesting, and/or useful.

1]  http:// www.time.gov - The official time for any TIME zone which you 
want to check.  It gives a continuous change each second.  You may have to 
pick a time when everyone else isn't trying to check the time.

2]  http://www.nature.com - This is the web site of the International 
Weekly Journal of SCIENCE.  I found Issue # 1 (4 Nov, 1869) interesting and 
also the article on Souped Up Search Engines.  For scientists, finding the 
information they want on the world wide web is a hit-and-miss affair.  More 
sophisticated and specialized search technologies are promising to change 
all that.

3]  http://www.google.com - This is one of the more advanced SEARCH ENGINES  
mentioned  in the Nature web site.  It is fast.  The more specific you 
enter the item on which you want information, the fewer number of options 
(links) you will receive.  Type in any item and you will get many many 
possible locations where you can find information on it.

4]  http://www.usps.gov/nscs/
lookups/lookup_zip+4.html - If you have an address (street, city, and 
state) this web site will give you the 9-digit ZIP CODE for that address.  
If you want to speed up mail delivery, use the 9-digit number.

5]  http://www.earningswhispers.
com/stocks.asp - It's always a good idea to know how your PORTFOLIO is 
doing.  The Whisper Report provides detailed information on analysts and 
earnings estimates for the most actively traded stocks, earnings surprise 
information, and company warnings.  Since earnings are the # 1 factor that 
drives stock, it is important for you to get the most accurate estimates 
for your stock.

6]  http://www.bluemountain.com - For sending that ELECTRONIC GREETING CARD 
for any occasion and in any language.  Cards are musically animated and 
have a place to include a personal note.  Especially handy when you 
remember a birthday or other special date and don't have time to mail a 
card.
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Getting File Properties

You hear people talk about getting the "properties" of a file or folder.  
How do you do that?  One way is to do a right-click on the file or folder 
and choose Properties.  Another way is to select the file or folder (single 
click) and the press Alt and Enter simultaneously.  Which is easier?  It's 
your choice.

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Exploring Windows Explorer
Part 3
by Dick Trissel

Before I get into the actual folder and file manipulation, I want to list a 
few of the most used keyboard shortcuts for Windows Explorer.  There are 
nearly a hundred Windows keyboard shortcuts, and not all apply in Explorer.  
These listed do.

KEY	ACTION

F1	Help
F2	Rename the selected file or folder
F3	Find dialog box
F4	Drop-down address list
F5	Refresh (update) the display
F6 or Tab	Move the focus from pane to pane to address.
F10	Selects File in Toolbar
Backspace	Move up one level in the folder hierarchy
Arrow keys	Move up and down the folder tree or file list.
   OR
  Right arrow	Expand the selected folder or go to subfolder.
  Left arrow 	Collapse the selected folder or go to parent folder.
CTRL+Arrow keys OR PgUp and PgDn keys
	Scroll the left or right pane.
Enter	Runs the right-pane selected file or opens a folder.
Shift+F10	Same as right click (displays the context menu).
Keypad +	Expand selected folder (same as Right Arrow).
Keypad -	Collapse selected folder (same as Left Arrow).
Keypad *	Expand all levels of subfolders
Alt+Spacebar 	Open the system menu (restore, move, size,
		maximize, close).
Alt+Enter	Display the folder's properties sheets.
Letter(s)	Jump to first or next folder starting with those letters.
Alt+F4	Close Explorer (or any application in Windows).

The following are dangerous in Explorer:
CTRL+A	Select all right-pane items.
CTRL+X	Cut selected item.
CTRL+C	Copy selected item.
CTRL+V	Paste copied or cut item/
CTRL+Z	Undo a previous action (repeat for multiple actions).
Delete	Puts selected item in Recycle Bin.
Shift+Delete	Deletes item permanently (not into Recycle Bin).

There are a few more general Windows keyboard shortcuts applicable to 
Windows Explorer.  These listed ought to suffice for awhile.

All of these shortcut actions can be accomplished with mouse actions and 
menu selections.  Use what is comfortable for you.

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